Nope, I am not being harsh. I to agree that most of the sucessful ones don't post and to be honest I don't make it a habit to ask what someones spouse did before they got married. It is just that some of these guys come to Thailand (not all) to find this love of their life and then feel like they then have to put down folks that they have been associating with. IF you are going to say bar girls are bad, then don't associate with them, and I do not think this is the case. I think most of the folks on here have associated within the bar scene and then say the people there are bad. They need to remember that when you point a finger there are four more pointing back at you.

Grandad said "you can take the girl out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl." What a crock of crap. That is so corny. I wonder how many of us have done things in our past that we are not proud of. Does this make us bad, I doubt it.

Ever wonder what the Thais say about the falangs. I am not talking about your spouse, I am talking about your everday average Thai. Ever hear, "looks like another young girl got her and old falang". Don't think I have to tell you the meaning of that one.

All I am saying is you can't generalize. Are there bad bar girls at heart? Sure. Are there some good ones? Sure. Is the general makeup of good and bad bargirls any different from the makeup of the general populace, I seriously doubt it. The same goes with Men. The only difference is the girls in the bars are trying to fleece thier customers. If they were employed in your place of business, you would give some of them some big bonuses for the fine work they do. It is a job.

I think it should be borne in mind that the earlier posting/quote was under the heading "Advice", was aimed at those new to LOS and as I perceived it was a little tongue-in-cheek.

Agreed it made many generalisations, which we all know there are exceptions. Nevertheless it contained many things to watch out for, for the uninitiated. Like the expensive mobile phones and frequent calls, with foreign friends etc., and I would suggest that the more of these clues that you see, the more you need to be wary. One needs to be very careful sorting the good from the bad.

Not everyone is the same, and I would agree certainly one cannot generalise.

Thank you Arjay. That was my point and it is a hot button when the holier than thou start on the bargirls, when most were right there by them last night or have been in the past..

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when most were right there by them last night or have been in the past..

well said. .

A Thai girl wants to meet a farang and live happily ever after - so the fairy tale goes.
Where is the guaranteed place to meet a lot of foreigners? - of course at a bar !
So she gets a job at a bar - and is immediately cast as a prostitute !
Are the guys who work at bars therefore 'rent -boys' ???
Too often we assume and typecast people without knowing the slightest thing about them.
I would imagine the quotas tend to lean towards many bar girls in that they will go with customers for money - BUT there are probrably many more than we care to give credit to who simply want to improve their crappy lives and meet a nice foreigner and there is simply no better way to meet so manyforeigners in one place.
I know of girls who work in bars (i will not call them bar girls) who absolutely refuse to sleep with customers - sure they will take a drink with them and chat to them but at the end of the night they go home alone - dignity in hand , and all for a few thousand lousy baht per month.
Those girls have my upmost respect.
Don't judge unless you know !

Hooray for Paul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't know if you agree with what I have written but I will agree with what you wrote %100 plus .

It is all in the word RESPECT guys . Give it and you will never be lonely again.

One of the nicest ladies I know in Thailand I met at Steves Bar some seven years ago. No she did not go out wiht customers. Yes she had a friendly ear for those who needed to speak to someone.

She is still here ,married to a farrang and is still the wonderful person I met in bar a very long time ago. She still says hello when she see me as I do her. Always chatting with my wife, the wife gets excited in seeing her. Just a very good preson

I have met a couple of gals working in the bars of NK that don't sleep with customers.They are there working for 3000 baht a month with room& board,in hopes of meeting a nice falang !They have to put up with a lot of crap from some falang drunks!I knew one girl that worked in the bar here that was a great worker,nice personality with the customers,but she couldn't stand the disrespect of the manager that kept grabbing her butt and tits.She finally hooked up with a falang that doesn't have to much,but he gives her some security and she doesn't have to endure the disrespect of some customers and management.See her shopping at the market every once in awhile.She told my wife that she doesn't love the guy she is with,but they give respect to each other and she has decided to settle for that.She doesn't look happy,but she definitely has dignity!Best employee I ever saw in the Bar/resturants here,attentive,quick,pleasant and always busy,while the others loaf about!