Heard he was an ahole when I first moved here, before even going to AEK. Followed a friend's advise and took along a gift for my first 90 day check-in. That was two years and one more bottle of Johnie red ago. I've never seen the ahole side of him. Get off on the right start with a small bribe to the rubber stampers and don't have to kow-tow. I'm told thats the way it works here and I like it!

must be me, but have Never seen the opportunity to offer a bribe. Where I am from it can get you into more trouble. Plus, think its against what little principals I have left these days.

What opportunity? You walk in with a plainly wrapped box and place it on the desk with your paperwork. You don't "big deal" it -nor will he. Everybody smiles. It is,afterall, just an age old, time tested way to show your appreciation, in advance, of the way he will get you stamped and on your way without much fuss. Of course you DO have to have your documents in order and all that, but most do don't they? No laws OR principles compromised. Do what you want- I like the old fashioned asian way.

an old saying 'if you put a little oil on the cogs they run smooth ,if you wait till they squeak it takes more work and more oil to stop squeak'

Think about all the poor guys that go to Immigration or whatever Gov't office expecting regular service that get the scowls,runarounds and turndowns because some of us ''smooth operators'' have upped the anty by greasing the palms before they get there
Who gives a damn,it all about us ,right

BKKSTAN wrote::lol: Think about all the poor guys that go to Immigration or whatever Gov't office expecting regular service that get the scowls,runarounds and turndowns because some of us ''smooth operators'' have upped the anty by greasing the palms before they get there
Who gives a damn,it all about us ,right

Precisely Stan. My advise. Get your documents in order, drink your own whiskey,be polite. Don't matter what you think, at that moment HE is higher than you. You,ll get your visa and enjoyed the drink too.

On a more serious note, as Harry said on another subject, the police read the forum too. Do you think Immigration don't?

valentine wrote:

BKKSTAN wrote::lol: Think about all the poor guys that go to Immigration or whatever Gov't office expecting regular service that get the scowls,runarounds and turndowns because some of us ''smooth operators'' have upped the anty by greasing the palms before they get there
Who gives a damn,it all about us ,right

Precisely Stan. My advise. Get your documents in order, drink your own whiskey,be polite. Don't matter what you think, at that moment HE is higher than you. You,ll get your visa and enjoyed the drink too.

On a more serious note, as Harry said on another subject, the police read the forum too. Do you think Immigration don't?

Here here on both points Stan and Val.

Besides, why should I bribe someone for just doing their job.

I have never felt it necessary to bribe anyone here in Thailand. Especially when I haven't done anything wrong.

I just want to go about my business and live my life. So from time to time I have to make a trip to immigration.

A few months ago I wanted to get a driver's license. So I need a letter from the immi. confirming my address and who I am etc etc. which costs 1000 baht. So I went to immigration to get the letter and the guy sent me away saying I needed house documents from the apartment where I stay, saying that I live there etc etc plus ID from homeowner and power of attorney. when I went back with all the documents he sent me away because the address on the ID from the apartment owner was not quite the same as the address on the letter etc. etc. So I went back with the correct documents - he sent me away again because something else was wrong.

On the 3rd visit of the day (just to get a letter saying who I was) he started picking through my documents and looking for holes. Now I (and my gf) had been extrememly polite throughout this ordeal, as I know the guy can be a bit harsh so I was on my best behaviour.

So he starts picking at my documents and I'm thinking 'jesus, what is his problem, it's not like I'm applying for citizenship', it was just a piece of paper saying who I was so I could get a driving license.

So In the politest way possible I pointed this out to him and that I was only trying to get a drivers' license. I guess he must have realised how anal he was being and 'pushed it through'. common sense prevailed.

Maybe he was waiting for a 'gift'.

There was no need to give me such a hard time.

If you are reading this Mr. Immigration man. Thanks for the help, you are doing a great job.

and ps...I believe in Karma...

Having given this subject more thought I must comment .
Firstly it may seem to be clever giving an"Under the counter bribe" to achieve your desired aims, personally , I don't think so. However if you do, that is where it should remain, under the counter. To boast on a public forum that you reguarly do so, and also to provide enough identifiers to pinpoint the receiver, is utter stupidity, the consequences of which could be the loss of the mans career and the annulment of any visa,s he has issued.. I think the best thing the moderators could do to prevent further repercussions is to delete
this entire subject.