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Child Support Visa

PostAuthor: JustinCredible » February 6, 2008, 2:43 pm

Hi,

Has anyone tried to get a Child Support Visa at Nong Khai Immigration?

I was planning on going to Korat to apply for one, but with the imminant closure expected I guess that I will have to try at Nong Khai. #-o

I know all of the requirements, but I have never noticed any reports about NK issuing them.
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PostAuthor: laphanphon » February 6, 2008, 2:50 pm

imminant closure, sh*t, need to go to nong khai soon to renew, korat was going to be my back up.

don't know about nong khai, but after divorce i did get marriage vise, even tho divorced and i stated i was still supporting family, and it was approved for year, w/90 exit/re-enters. BUT, that was from consulate in states. i did have a document in thai stating was divorced but still supporting family. not sure if would of been approved here.

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PostAuthor: BKKSTAN » February 6, 2008, 4:24 pm

Best to take the sleeper train into Bangkok,zip down to BK immigration,do some English speaking movies,buy some books and catch the sleeper train back :D
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PostAuthor: Muni » February 8, 2008, 12:09 pm

Is there really such a thing as a "Child Support Visa"? I not only support my 2 kids 100%, I have sole custody of them as well from Thai court, with all the appropriate documents. I contacted Thai Immigration and 2 lawyers in Bangkok who I know specialize in visas. Since my kids are Thai & want to remain in Thailand, I wanted to check if I might be able to qualify for a "better" (re: easier or longer) visa than 1-year "retirement". Thai Immigration & both lawyers told me "No. There is no special visa"

The lawyers are professional and as I said, specialize in Visas, Work Permits, etc. so they should know their business.
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PostAuthor: laphanphon » February 8, 2008, 12:45 pm

i do believe you lawyers are wrong. they have a visa for family visit, just need the court docs to qualify. have more info on laptop, not with me. just not sure where you have to apply at, in or out of thailand, maybe vientiane will issue. they have 3 mon (1 entry)and 1 yr (multi entry), 60/125 usd. we repost tomorrow, think they have support of thai family visa. just read last night as i renewed my extention for retirement today.
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Re support visa

PostAuthor: kakariki » February 8, 2008, 12:51 pm

I'm not sure if this is what you are thinking about-
http://www.thaivisa.com/323.0.html
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PostAuthor: Muni » February 8, 2008, 1:04 pm

I checked on this...the lawyers told me you MUST have Work Permit as stated "Copy of work permit. Copy of annual personal income tax forms with receipts for the previous 3 years. Copy of each months personal income tax forms (por ngor dor 1) with receipts from January of year of application until the month before applying (only for applicant earning salary)."

They told me retirement does NOT qualify... why would they turn away business? I tend to believe them
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PostAuthor: papaguido » February 8, 2008, 2:13 pm

laphanphon wrote:i do believe you lawyers are wrong. they have a visa for family visit, just need the court docs to qualify. have more info on laptop, not with me. just not sure where you have to apply at, in or out of thailand, maybe vientiane will issue. they have 3 mon (1 entry)and 1 yr (multi entry), 60/125 usd. we repost tomorrow, think they have support of thai family visa. just read last night as i renewed my extention for retirement today.



Muni,

I believe LA is correct. Take a look at Thai Police Order No. 606/2549, Para. 7.17 (In the case of a family member of a Thai)

Basis for consideration:
(4) In the case of a child, adopted child or child of his/her spouse, the said person must not be married, must be living with the family, and must be less than 20 years of age.


Also, no requirement for proof of income. Proof of income under para 7.17
pertains to "Alien married to a Thai women. (this according to the order).

http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/2n ... p606EN.pdf
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PostAuthor: papaguido » February 8, 2008, 2:29 pm

Muni,

The following was posted on the "other" forum:

If you are 50 years old and have a child with Thai nationality you may apply for a non imm type "O" visa and extend it yearly in thailand till the child is 21. As my son is 8 I don't have to do a visa run till he is 21 which is another 13 years of non visa run bliss.

The really good good thing about this visa is that there is no financial requirement! I mean, I don't have to take a personal loan once a year from HSBC, to cover the cash they want to see in my account and I don't have to show monthly income from abroard. Very nice conditions! Just turn up once a year with the required documents.

Just being married to your wife puts you under a different visa bracket.

Badbanker



...more here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php ... try1291446
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PostAuthor: Muni » February 8, 2008, 7:06 pm

Thanks for the feedback. I will ask Immigration when I go for my 90 day check-in. What I'd really like is a longer visa with maybe some additional "privileges". Cash is not my problem. If I still have to go through the whole process every year, I might as well just stay with the visa I have
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PostAuthor: papaguido » February 8, 2008, 7:27 pm

Muni wrote:Thanks for the feedback. I will ask Immigration when I go for my 90 day check-in. What I'd really like is a longer visa with maybe some additional "privileges". Cash is not my problem. If I still have to go through the whole process every year, I might as well just stay with the visa I have


Good luck :D
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PostAuthor: fatbas***d » April 18, 2008, 9:32 am

Any updates on obtaining this Visa at Nong Kai ? They normally require You to present your children to obtain this class of visa extension and i don't want to take them out of school to make a trip to bangers.
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PostAuthor: JustinCredible » April 18, 2008, 3:52 pm

I still have not found ANYONE who has got this type of extension at Nonk Khai, but I am getting positive feedback and confirmation that it is being issued at Korat.
I will be going there!!
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PostAuthor: isaanlawyers » July 31, 2008, 1:54 am

Sorry for late reply. Don't know if I should answer of not !!!!!!!!!!

We did few of these visas in Korat. It's rare.
Actually, you apply in Korat and they are treated in BKK. They give you a 30 days extension and you have to come back to know the answer.

I am NOT posting for advertising. We are NOT interested to do these visa. Why? It's complicated, you are never sure of the answer, they apply the law as they want, you can have to come 3 times to the immigration like one of our clients, etc. It's under the rule 7.17 (5) of the October 2006 rules. Our Law firm is more into corporate law, real estate and property law, family law. I really offer this information as for anyone who wants to try.

Now, we've done this with someone UNDER 50 y-o (normally need to be over).
So, the limit in the rule is not strictly applied. Client had 1 million baht in a bank account.

Another client HAD TO SHOW money (normally, you don't). He was under a marriage or retirement visa (can't remember) changed and they accepted. He also got a renewal this year, by himself.

Another client DIDN"T GET this visa as his son, born in Thailand, was not Thai citizen !! (believe it or not! The client didn't know...) That's very rare, nobody knew, his son was born one year before a new law and for reason that even that client didn't know, his son living abroad IS NOT THAI. (mother Thai, born in Thaland, but not Thai).

Another client had so much problems, no incomes, etc. (incomes of 22K per month, 2 children, wife)
We did the last 2 cases PRO BONO, meaning NO CHARGES OR FEES. For free, to help.

If you have a lawyer or not, it doesn't really matter.
You must normally show that :

1) You are 50 or over (but got it for a 30 y-o foreigner)

2) You have Thai children (but a client learned that his child wasn't Thai!!!!)

3) You are supporting them (in Korat, they ask some kind of financial evidence, no amount has been mentionned)

4) If you were NOT married while you had the children, you must show that you have a document from the amphur (giving you custody) or a document from the Court (giving you custody) or 2 witnesses, normally the Poo Yai Ban and someone lese (to show that you are supporting the child). That was asked for our client of 30 y-o, not married, taking care of the child. Under Thai law, only the mother has full parental power if a baby is born outside marriage (with exceptions).

If you want to do this in Korat, I would suggest you to call Khun arcade, an immigration officer. Send me a private message and I will give you his phone number.
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PostAuthor: fatbas***d » July 31, 2008, 10:20 am

I inquired about 7.17 in NK, I fulfill ALL the requirements married, supporting 2 children who are my natural kids under the age of 20, Wife and I are Legally married.
But the highly trained and knowledgeable officer said cannot, you have to be devorce (sic) I said so If I get divorced and get a court order for custody I can obtain this visa, Yes he replied.
Strange seeing that that one of the requirements of `7.17 is (3) in the case of married couple the parties are required to have both practical and legal relationship.
Further on it states under 4 / 3 Copy of proof of relationship such as marriage evidences.
I tried to point this out on the printed copy of the Police order but he would have none of it, just banging on my copy of the Police order, saying you must devorce.
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