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Ghurkas not given right to settle in UK

PostAuthor: konstabel els » April 25, 2009, 3:39 am

Well once again this ' cool Brittania' Government have disgraced us once more, by not allowing the Ghurka soldiers to settle in the UK ,

The Ghurka's gave everything for us, and wish no harm towards the people of the U.K.
this government should not hold their heads in shame - they should put their heads straight into the gutter - for that's where they belong,

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Re: Ghurkas not given right to settle in UK

PostAuthor: steveway2 » April 25, 2009, 5:27 am

KE - could not agree more. Ghurka soldiers fall into a completely different category than any other "migrant" group in the UK, they have "served" the UK well. UK Gov should hang their heads in shame.
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Re: Ghurkas not given right to settle in UK

PostAuthor: beer monkey » April 25, 2009, 5:37 am

I'll 3rd that.

The news item from MOD-oracle.

http://www.modoracle.com/news/Anger-At- ... 17899.html
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Re: Ghurkas not given right to settle in UK

PostAuthor: merchant seaman » April 25, 2009, 8:27 am

Five Ghurka's working for London firm Secure West live on board my ship and provide security. They are highly regarded on the ship and are nothing but professional. They have received better benifits from the British Gov't but still fall far short from they British counterparts. They without a doubt deserve everything their counterparts receive along with British residence and British passports.
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Re: Ghurkas not given right to settle in UK

PostAuthor: saint » April 25, 2009, 9:07 am

i think the problems the ghurkas face is thier beliefs !!!!!! are they not bhudist , and not muslim ? now if they were the later , they would be welcome with open arms , given every benefit possible , have more protection by law than anyone else , and be treated like honourable guests . once again the british government has made itself look like the complete ar~eholes that they indeed are . these men have served britain with tenacity and honour , more so than a lot of brits have , they should be treated with the greatest respect , and certaintly be allowed to make their homes in the country they have pledged their lives and loyalty too . theres a thread about patriorism on here . how can any self respecting brit have any pride left in what was once a great nation , when it treats its most couragous servants so diabolicaly ?????
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Re: Ghurkas not given right to settle in UK

PostAuthor: Aardvark » April 25, 2009, 9:09 am

Well at least the Govt have said they would conduct a "REVIEW" what ever that means :-k
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Re: Ghurkas not given right to settle in UK

PostAuthor: BobHelm » April 25, 2009, 9:23 am

It is not quite as black & white as many would have you believe.
The case (which has now been settled) was concerning Ghurkas who retired from the regiment before 1997. After that date the "headquarters" of the Ghurkas is considered as being the UK, so they have exactly the same nationality & right to abode in the UK as any other member of the British Armed Forces. Those who retired before 1997 had to go through the normal immigration procedure to enter the UK. They did (rightly) seem to get preferential treatment in this process. The objection was that they had to go through the procedure at all (something I would wholeheartedly agree with them on) but Civil Servants have to interpret the law as it is written & not (as many object to when dealing with them in Thailand) make it up as they go along...

A Home Office spokesman said: "We have always been clear that where there is a compelling case Gurkha soldiers and their families should be considered for settlement. The revised guidance is currently under consideration and will be published by 24 April. Since 2004, over 6,000 former Gurkhas and family members have been granted settlement in the UK under immigration rules."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/2 ... ion-policy
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Re: Ghurkas not given right to settle in UK

PostAuthor: seymourbutts » April 25, 2009, 10:56 am

I have done a lot of work with gurkha's and yes they are good, blah blah , but they earn something like 10 times the average in nepal, They are rich men in their own country, surely that is enough?? British soldiers are not made rich men by the government?? They dont belong in the UK thay are Nepalese and are using our governmet to support their famillies in Nepal.. They live in uk on next to nothing and send all their money home to Nepal, is that right or patriotic ?? In Nepal its similar to here where every familly wants their daughter to marry a farang, so they are rich,, well over here every familly wants their son to get in the british army for the same reason!!!

Is it much different to all there immigrants using our system?? They joined the Army knowing full well when they were no longer needed they are back home!! No different to a british soldier, when your too old mate your on yer own!! Except these guys return home rich!! Why should these people get more benefits than british soldiers who have done the same and in the majority of cases more than these people!!! Everybody moans about how we brits dont have the same rights as all these immigrants, well here is a prime example but your all supporting them!!! (in this case)!! so whats the difference??? Oh thats right they have fought for us!!! So have millions of brits who dont get the same treatment as these people do!!! how many old pensioners who fought in ww2 are sat at home freezing and in poverty??? you wont see a ghurka in poverty once he gets on the gravy train called the british system!!!!
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Re: Ghurkas not given right to settle in UK

PostAuthor: Aardvark » April 25, 2009, 12:09 pm

Some good points Seymourbutts, I guess it's fair to say they all enlisted with the full knowledge that they would simply go home when all was done, fair enough too :-k
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Re: Ghurkas not given right to settle in UK

PostAuthor: konstabel els » April 25, 2009, 2:13 pm

[quote="seymourbutts you wont see a ghurka in poverty once he gets on the gravy train called the british system!!!![

I am more than happy to see a loyal serving regiment such as the ghurkas enjoy financial benefits - there is a 'slight ' difference between ' marrying a farang' and getting your arms and legs blown off.
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Re: Ghurkas not given right to settle in UK

PostAuthor: seymourbutts » April 25, 2009, 4:53 pm

Much the same risk for the farang as the gurkha in some cases... I am too but only while they are serving! Then off you go sunshine, back to your yak!!and of course your mansion the british govt just financed... They get a pension... Why should they get any more???? Why after serving their time does the ghurka soldier suddenly become a bloody charity case, and the british soldier is on his own??? why can they go back on their contract and we have to foot the bill??? is it right they agree when they leave the army they are repatriated at our expense, but decide they want to stay!! And get the backing of thew pc brigade?? In nepal if they did this they would be shot end of problem!!!
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Re: Ghurkas not given right to settle in UK

PostAuthor: konstabel els » April 25, 2009, 5:08 pm

wonder would you say that to a Ghurka's face? - doubt it somehow
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Re: Ghurkas not given right to settle in UK

PostAuthor: merchant seaman » April 25, 2009, 5:16 pm

Ghurka's are one of the most fierce fighter's. Sorry I can't remember the name of the knife they carry but was giving one by the Lt. on the ship
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Re: Ghurkas not given right to settle in UK

PostAuthor: seymourbutts » April 25, 2009, 5:21 pm

I will never have to the same as you wont, but this is my opinion i formed over years of working with them.. They are not as some would have you believe "super human" they are only useful in numbers.. they do literally exactly what you say, they do not think for themselves except where it comes to money that is!!! They come from a very poor country much like pakistanis in appearance...

somebody put it in their heads that they should get the same rights as british army soldiers so they banded together to pay for a top lawyer and won... You wont see them in Northern Ireland, They went to the falklands but were really kept behind the action, couldnt have a foriegner winning a british war now could we!!! They dont do what the british army do, and should not get the same rewards as the british army do!

i do think they are good soldiers and a limited asset to the british army, however i strongly believe that the british soldier shouold be given the same priority as these guys... we bleat on about equal rights etc, but in reallity they end up with more equal rights than the brit soldier and its wrong!
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Re: Ghurkas not given right to settle in UK

PostAuthor: vlad » April 25, 2009, 5:54 pm

Could'nt agree more an absolute disgrace I for 1 am ashamed to be British says it all when any migrant can just walk in claiming asylum then once there given there house and benefits and there interperator cause they wont learn to speak our lingo. a couple of weeks later the rest of the family arrive come in our gov't say theres plenty of room. You can even stand on the streets with your mates and call the returning troops from Afgahn and Iraq murder's but its ok we wont arrest you. Welcome to the uk. you think you have problems in the LOS you want to live here.
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