New Passport; Visa

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New Passport; Visa

PostAuthor: patriot » November 3, 2008, 7:04 pm

If one has filled one's passport and acquires a new one, is the Thai visa (non Imm "O") in the original passport still valid?

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Re: New Passport; Visa

PostAuthor: papaguido » November 3, 2008, 9:10 pm

Yes it's still valid. Are you on an extension (retirement or marriage)? If not, then I don't think you have to worry about transferring the visa to the new one just have two show both when leaving Thailand. If you're on an extension then you may want to read the following post:

new-passport-letter-from-embassy-receipt-too-t8153.html
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Re: New Passport; Visa

PostAuthor: Roy » November 3, 2008, 10:42 pm

I have changed my passport twice now while living in Thailand and all I do is wait until I have to cross over to Laos. You go into the immigration office at the bridge, fill out a form and the officer there will stamp your new passport with your previous passports and visa details.
Easy as that.
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Re: New Passport; Visa

PostAuthor: patriot » November 4, 2008, 11:12 pm

Thanks guys, I think that link certainly covers most scenarios.
I think my best bet is that as I'm in europe soon would be to go back to UK (aaarrrggghhh!!!) get a new passport and then go to Hull (aaarrrggghhh!!!) to get the visa, then come back to NK Immigration to apply for the Retirement Visa. ANy objections from Orachun and he'll get a swift kick in the Marble Arch.
Or, as I'm in Qatar, get the visa, return to Thailand and acquire the new passport.
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Re: New Passport; Visa

PostAuthor: jackspratt » November 5, 2008, 7:01 am

Why not get a non O-A from Hull, for the purposes of "retirement" (assuming you are over 50)?

The advantages are:

- initial 12 months, multiple re-entry, no border runs required
- do a border run just prior the the end of the initial 12 months, and get a second 12 months (but will then require re-entry permit/s if you leave Thailand)
- keep your money in the bank in the UK (or wherever)

Hope you are not working too hard :D
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Re: New Passport; Visa

PostAuthor: patriot » November 5, 2008, 2:47 pm

I can't really "Jack" as I tried to extend my "O" and NK told me I had to get a new one from outside the Kingdom to enable me to get the Retirement. Apparently I'm not entitled to a Non Imm O anymore.

Qatar, or should I say Little Dehi, is fine but the traffic is increasing expontentially.
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Re: New Passport; Visa

PostAuthor: jackspratt » November 5, 2008, 2:59 pm

Sent you a PM "patriot".
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Re: New Passport; Visa

PostAuthor: douglas » November 5, 2008, 8:53 pm

Hi,Jacksprat, When I applied for a "O-A" visa in Hull they informed me i could only get a "O" visa outside of Thailand, which really had to be a multiple one as you had to be in Thailand 60 days on a  "O" visa before you could apply for a "O-A" visa which people mistakenly call a retirement visa. They said I could try a single Entry "O" visa but advised against it. The "O-A" visa can not be aquired outside of Thailand. I got a "O" visa this year  from Hull, Posted from Isle of Man 1600Hrs Thursday afternoon and recieved back 1000Hrs Saturday, good service, and the cost of the "O-A" " retirement visa after 60 days was 1900B. you have to report to imigration every 90 days, not 3 months as some people say to let them know you are at the same address, or elsewhere. Also if you exit Thailand you MUST fill in a form, cannot remember the number, but if you fail to do so when returning you will only get a 30 days V.O.A.  stamp in your passport and the "O-A" visa will therefore be invalid. Hope this helpsCheers Doug
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Re: New Passport; Visa

PostAuthor: BobHelm » November 5, 2008, 9:05 pm

You are correct Hull cannot provide a O-A, only embassies (not consulates) can do that. I believe that you can actually get one in the Thai Embassy in London, which you then have to "confirm" in Bangkok when you get here. However, I understand that the Embassy are FAR harder to deal with than most of the Consulates in the UK & not much easier than Nong Khai Immigration... :(
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Re: New Passport; Visa

PostAuthor: Ter » November 5, 2008, 9:15 pm

The one in London is for sure, trust me i know to my cost.
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Re: New Passport; Visa

PostAuthor: jackspratt » November 5, 2008, 9:54 pm

Unsurprisingly, there seems to be different horses for different courses.

In fact, my understanding is that you CANNOT get an O-A visa issued in Thailand.

Also, I am quite certain that consulates can issue O-A visas, as I obtained such visa from the Thai consulate in Perth.

Whether or not Hull has the ability to issue O-As would seem to be a local rule. Obviously, more research is required from those in the UK who may be desirous of such a visa.

In my case, I will be going back to Oz in February, in the certainty that I will be able to get a new stamp in my passport, entitling me to 12 + 12 months in Thailand.

As far as confirmation is concerned, any visa issued overseas is subject to to examination and final approval from Immigration when you arrive in Thailand.
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Re: New Passport; Visa

PostAuthor: papaguido » November 6, 2008, 6:46 am

douglas wrote:Hi,Jacksprat, When I applied for a "O-A" visa in Hull they informed me i could only get a "O" visa outside of Thailand, which really had to be a multiple one as you had to be in Thailand 60 days on a  "O" visa before you could apply for a "O-A" visa which people mistakenly call a retirement visa. They said I could try a single Entry "O" visa but advised against it. The "O-A" visa can not be aquired outside of Thailand. I got a "O" visa this year  from Hull, Posted from Isle of Man 1600Hrs Thursday afternoon and recieved back 1000Hrs Saturday, good service, and the cost of the "O-A" " retirement visa after 60 days was 1900B. you have to report to imigration every 90 days, not 3 months as some people say to let them know you are at the same address, or elsewhere. Also if you exit Thailand you MUST fill in a form, cannot remember the number, but if you fail to do so when returning you will only get a 30 days V.O.A.  stamp in your passport and the "O-A" visa will therefore be invalid. Hope this helpsCheers Doug


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Re: New Passport; Visa

PostAuthor: jackspratt » November 6, 2008, 10:47 am

Papa I suspect douglas is confusing "visa" - which you get overseas - with permission to stay, or extension - which you get in Thailand.

The O-A is not a retirement visa as such - it is a visa issued for the purpose of, eg, investigating retirement in Thailand. Having been issued overseas at an Embassy or consulate, when you arrive in Thailand you receive a permission to stay according to the terms of the visa.

An O-A is normally for 12 months and is good for unlimited re-entries. Just before the 12 months expires you can depart Thailand and return within that initial 12 month period, and you will be given a further 12 month permission to stay at the airport/border etc. However, in this 2nd 12month period you must get a re-entry permit before you travel overseas, or the visa will lapse.

Through the whole 24 months you are still required to do 90 day reporting, assuming you are in Thailand when the 90 days comes up.

Towards the end of the 2nd 12 month period you can then apply for an extension, based on retirement, or marriage. It is only now that you have to demonstrate TBH800K in a Thai bank, or TBH65,000/month income, or a combination.

Reading on Thai Visa, there are quite a lot of posts about incorrect and/or misleading information given out by the Thai consulate in Hull.
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