aznyron wrote:Haliburton = Cheyney oil = Bush family some how that picture does look rather suspicious
especially when they refused to go under oath and be questioned alone and the great 9/11
commission allowed that but WJC had to go under oath over a B/J some how that disturbs me

Hey ron, this is a series of 15 films of about 10 miniutes all about 9/11, i believe they add up to evidence of an inside job, just too many coincedences, too many questions etc etc anyway have a look and tell me what you think!!! and i suggest anyone else would be interested in these films so you can put it to bed!!!!

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm

I see this topic is about Torture!

One more off topic question - which is stronger, steel reinforced concrete or airplane wings?

what were these contractors doing before 9/11

the numbers are staggering. pre and post iraq. revenue increases, political donations/contribution, lobbying, then more contracts, and then billions of dollars worth. really is amazing, then the fraud, overbilling, deception, caught red handed stealing one way or the other...............and nothing.

also some recommended viewing, iraq for sa'le', 'zeilgeist' (try to get past the groovy music and light show in between segment), 3 parts, last 2 are excellent, 1st one deals with religion, a bit boring, but can be an eye opener to those that don't know. and if you really want to appreciate the war on terror, 'AKA, tommy chong' too funny, and sad, what resources are wasted in the quest for a high profile arrest.

I have to say it's torture reading this, primarily due to the fact that it meanders over so many different topics, as usual.

arjay wrote:I have to say it's torture reading this, primarily due to the fact that it meanders over so many different topics, as usual.

I'm happy to counsel you once you've locked this one up, I'm actually a very understanding person.

Seriously, as this thread is now a mess of material spanning so many different topics, I do think it best to lock this one and then any members who wish to continue to discuss any of the following, and keep their posts on topic, can do by starting an appropriately named topic for whichever one:-

The arguments for torture e.g waterboarding
American Politics XXI
9/11 revisited
9/11 a conspiracy
Political Donations
The war with Al Queda
Was the invasion of Iraq a mistake

To any newcomers Conspiracy Theories was covered a while back: http://www.udonmap.com/udonthaniforum/conspiracy-theories-t9558.html