Non Imm 'O' Extension

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Non Imm 'O' Extension

PostAuthor: Kudjap or Bust » April 3, 2008, 7:21 am

Now I know this has been done to death and believe me I've tried searching passed threads but they get long and somewhat confusing, can anyone give me a very quick answer.

I understand to qualify for the Non Imm 'O' visa yearly extension a person has to prove 40,000 bht per month into a Thai bank with covering letters etc, I also understand that the persons spouce's salary can be used to cover or top this up.

Now, if I split the amount to 20,000 from my overseas income and 20,000 from my TW's salary does the TW's half have to be transfered to my bank account every month?

If so would it be OK to have both segments of the 40,000 paid into a joint account?
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PostAuthor: papaguido » April 3, 2008, 9:37 am

Send Pop-pop's a PM, I believe he took this route for his extension.
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PostAuthor: Jing Jing » April 3, 2008, 10:36 am

The piece of paper I have from Immigration says

Application for visa extension in case of foreign husband stays with Thai national wife, as of the 1st October 2006.
Be advised to bring original and two copies of each document mentioned below though if it is a letter to the Immigration Office the original document plus one copy.

3. In case of working, the average income of the husband and wife or both must be not less than 40.000 Thai Baht. If the husband works he must have a Work Permit. Income Tax papers from previous year {Phor. Ngor. Dor. 1, Phor. Ngor. Dor. 91, Phor. Ngor. Dor. 94,

4. Or in the case of receiving pension. Applicant must provide evidence of monthly pension with a minimum of 40.000 Thai Bhat. Evidence must include a letter of certification issued by the Embassy/Consulate of which applicant holds citizenship. (Empassy/Consulate stamp needs to be verified by Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs Consular Department at Chaeng Wattana Road, BKK) (Evidence and letters etc. accepted in English and/or Thai only, all other languages must be translated and verified)
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PostAuthor: Jing Jing » April 3, 2008, 11:16 am

The Thai Immigration web site states for more information, please call 0-2213-2556.
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PostAuthor: PopsIcafe » April 3, 2008, 11:28 am

Kudjap or Bust, you talking about a Non-Immigration "O" in support of spouse. Yes they take her income and combine what you transfer here into Thailand in your Thai bank account. No, you don't show her transferring it into your account. Proof is done by presenting the about of taxes she is paying or (and I'm not really sure of this part) something from her place of employment showing her monthly salary. They will take her monthly income and combine it with yours and it should be 40,000 baht or more. You may want to have some monies in the bank account (in the neighborhood of 400,000 baht). My TW shows the about of taxes paid from the Internet shop here and they take the average of my transfers. This usually well over the 40k monthly income, plus I have at least 300k in the bank.

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PostAuthor: Kudjap or Bust » April 3, 2008, 12:18 pm

Thanks Pops,
No problem with the cash in the bank thing, I transfered 400k to my bank here just after the cut off point (not realising there was a cut off point) and was told by Immigration it'd didn't count anymore when I went to question what docs I would need.

Sounds easy enough to show TW's income, she's also self employed with her own little business so I guess she has all the correct tax returns or whatever, maybe a trip to her accountant is in order before we go any further.

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PostAuthor: keg » April 4, 2008, 8:18 pm

Kudjap,

I feel the exact same way that I hate to even bring this topic up as it has been talked to death. But everytime I read a new post on the subject I get more confused. I have a few more months to go before my first extension try and the finance/bank records and depostits all get more confusing. Below is pasted straight from the Thai Immigration website for requirements for extending your visa if married to a Thai:




Application for further stay for an alien husband who supports a wife who is Thai citizen or who is a permanent resident of the Kingdom of Thailand
Required Documents
1. Immigration Form 7
2. Copy of passport
3. A 4 cm. X 6 cm. Photograph
4. A 1,900 baht application fee
5. Marriage Certificate
6. Birth Certificate (if any)
7. Financial evidence showing financial status of the husband
1. Bank account pass-book, personal bank statement of the account owner.
2. Evidence indicating income along with related documents. If receiving pension, a document of pension payment certified by the embassy or consulate of the country that pays pension is needed.
3. In case of working in Thailand, Work permit and evidence of tax payment are required.
8. Documents indicating Thai nationality or permanent residence of the wife such as identification card (ID), census registration address / residence identification, or passport (in case that the wife is a permanent resident)
9. A record of interviewing the applicant and his wife.
10. Applicant must accompany his wife to the Immigration Bureau office to certify of all the documents. The couple will be able to confirm that they are still husband and wife.
11. Evidence certified by the applicant's embassy or consulate showing the applicant's marital status.
12. The officials reserve the rights to examine or ask for additional documents from the applicant if necessary.


Wife of Thai nationality:
1. TM. 7
2. Passport copy
3. Passport picture (4x6 cm)
4. Application fee 1,900.- Baht
5. Marriage certificate
6. House register and identification card of wife
7. Birth certificate of children (if any)
8. Interview record of applicant and wife
9. Applicant must accompany his wife to the Immigration Bureau office to certify of all the documents. The couple will be able to confirm that they are still husband and wife.
10. Financial documentation:
- Bank statement and copy of bank account showing at least 400,000.- Baht deposit
- Employment evidence, work permit, and tax documentation showing an income of at least 40,000.- Baht.


Wife permanent resident of Thailand:
1. TM. 7
2. Passport copy
3. Passport picture (4x6 cm)
4. Application fee 1,900.- Baht
5. Marriage certificate
6. Passport copy of wife, residence documents of wife
7. Birth certificate of children (if any)
8. Interview record of applicant and wife
9. Applicant must accompany his wife to the Immigration Bureau office to certify of all the documents. The couple will be able to confirm that they are still husband and wife.
10. Documentation of financial position of wife, such as
- Bank account
- Bank statement
- Employment evidence, salary statement, etc.
11. tax documents (if any)
12. The officer in charge reserves the right to request additional documents as needed.


Maybe somebody else can interpret this but the way I read it is that the first part is if the huspand is the sole supporter of the wife who is either a Thai citzen or permanent resident of Thailand and this section only asks for the husbands financial info which includes the pension letter reference.
The next two sections appear to be for a husband who has a wife who is either Thai or a permanent resident of Thailand and is not claiming to be the sole supporter of the wife. In these two sections the income and financial requirements change and are generic or the wifes info. Each section lists the required documents again making it seem like they are indeed different requirements for each specific situation. Has anyone else ever looked at this and tried to determine what immigration means exactly. I have read many posts on this subject on this board and thaivisa and it seems that each person has a little bit different take on the requirements and yes I know that under each section it says that the Immigration Officer has the right to request any additional documents as they see fit. Again sorry for harping on this subject but it is confusing and a makes me a little worried as my time is coming up and I am trying to get my ducks in line.

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PostAuthor: BobHelm » April 4, 2008, 8:43 pm

Craig,

My advice would be to go to immigration and ask them to tell you exactly what documentation they want you to produce for your renewal. Explain that you are confused & don't want to waste their time when you come in to apply.
I know they can be a real pain (& have been to me in the past) but on the one occasion I went in for advice they were helpful - as long as I ignored some of the what I took to be 'stupid Falang' looks that was. :D
If you go in now then you are not under pressure & really still have time to comply with what they want. If you take something like your list above in with you & get him to mark his requirements on it then so much the better as you can take that back with you when you actually apply.
All that being said I know it is no guarantee as they are quite liable to say 'new law', last week. But at least they can see that you tried to comply with what they wanted which sometimes cut you a little slack..... :D
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PostAuthor: papaguido » April 5, 2008, 5:44 am

Craig,

It was the same for me prior to applying for my extension. With all my documentation in hand (including *copies) I went to NK. The immigration officer looked through my package and sorted me out. The only thing I was missing was a letter from my bank verifying my deposit of 40,000bt. He also stated that the letter from the bank required to be current, meaning it should be dated the day before or day of applying for the extension.

To answer your question, if you are the sole provider than you only have to concern yourself with the first part of what you posted. You will need copies of your bank book, letter from your bank verifying deposit of 40,000bt and proof of income letter form your embassy.

*you will need two copies of everything you submit, including originals.
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