Hi all, like most westerners when I first heard about sin sod it left a bad taste in my mouth. The thought of 'paying' for a wife did not sit well. Of course then I realize I can't apply my values to others culture. So when in Rome do as the Romans. While pondering some thoughts the other day I began wondering how virginity or the lack of affects sin sod.

I am guessing it is presumed by most families that if the daughters are childless they are virgins regardless of whether they actually are or spent some time dancing around a chrome pole in Nana Plaza and hence you will pay accordingly. I am curious to know what the affect of non-virginity has on sin sod. For example a single mother who has never married. And if a woman has two children as opposed to one does that affect the amount? What if a woman is divorced? Since I would presume her first husband payed sin sod can the family ask for sin sod again and if they can is the amount reduced because she is no longer a virgin?

I know there are multiple questions in here so I will try to keep it simple. Lets say a family has 4 daughters and daughter A is a virgin. If the sin sod amount for daughter A is 100% what percent wound you pay for the following daughters? Would daughter B's sin sod be 50%, 75% or the same as daughter A? Let's assume all 4 daughters are to marry farangs.

Daughter B - single with 1 child
Daughter C - single with 2 children
Daughter D - Divorced

Before anyone seeks to answer your questions, should they assume that all other relevent factors are equal? E.g. that they are all educated to the same level and all have similar (good) jobs or are not employed? Those factors are also important in determining the amount of sin sod.

The higher the prospects of the individual, the higher the likely sin sot.

Yes I think we should consider all other relevant factors to be equal. We should compare apples to apples. It's just to get an idea of how these factors affect the sin sod payment and to learn a little more about sin sod.

Interesting question,i too would like insight into this matter.(sin sod).My thai knowledge of this matter is limited (previous G/Fs Filipinas).However i do remember reading somewhere,that if the lady is divorced,no sin sod to be paid.Maybe if the lady is divorced with children,the family just pleased that she can find a husband,as most thais would not be interested in her. I myself have now a thai g/f ,divorced with 2 daughters,owns her own shop and car,I would hope sin sod not apply.

I don't think that a mathematic rule can be applied on that matter. Everything is negotiable (so, it might depend on the negotiation skills of the friend or relative who will help).

Of course, in theory, daughter A's sin sot may be higher than for the other daughters and probably daughter B's sin sot higher than daughter C's sin sot (not sure: some people could think that a child is an "asset" and not a charge), but what about daugther D's sin sot if she is a divorcee but does not have any children?

It probably could also differ from families to families or even within the same family (for exemple, between two brothers' daughters).

Aboslutely true there is no formula, but it is somethign that yuo should have a trusted friend do not yourself. There situations where huge sums are paid ther are others where the money is just flash and given back.

Every situation is going to be different. I remember once where I was asked to pay 150 k to a devoirced womans mother just to date her, one of those new Thai traditions that I started. That was a very easy decesion

In relation to sin sot if any one can answer it will be appreciated, if for example sin sot is paid then who pays for the wedding? also if the girl has been married before and now divorced with a young child should sin sot be paid again? and if sin sot is paid what are the price ranges I know that at first they will ask some ridicilous figure, but at the end of the day what figure is right ? any help with be thankfull
Bubs

IMHO this is a way overblown thing. It like all the rest of lifes decisions is really up to you and the lady you are going to marry. The ultimate decision is yours.

Sure we want to respect the Thai Customs, but this is so negotiable, that even many Thais have eloped. This is like the custom of the brides family pays for the wedding in the West. Lots of grooms help. Lots get fed up with the stuff and just elope.

Use of common sense should be used to the maximum.

As I understand it, the groom pays the sin sod and then the family pay for the reception/party out of the sin sot. That is the usual scenario.

I also understand that if the bride has been married before and has a child or children that it is unlikely that any sin sod should or would be paid, as if you think about it, you are taking on a liability rather than an asset. Also she is no longer a virgin. She's second hand soiled goods. A Thai man would not want to take her on. Certainly if the family did want a sin sot, then it should be nominal, or much reduced.

There has been a long thread on this topic before. If I can locate it, I will give you the link.

Thanks banpaeng & Arjay much appreciated and hopefully you can find that link for me Arjay will wait for it thanks guys,

bubbles wrote:Thanks banpaeng & Arjay much appreciated and hopefully you can find that link for me Arjay will wait for it thanks guys,

try looking a couple of topics down from this one "[poll]sin-sod".

bubbles, try this one:-

http://www.udonmap.com/udonthaniforum/v ... .php?t=579

or have a look on the Realtionships section.

I know of someone that recently married a 22 year old with a child, the sin sod was 100,000 baht. Is this about normal, over the top, or was it a snip?

James

What's your bid? I'll start it out at 50 baht. Come on guys this is not a cattle auction. It is really good to discuss what sin sod is but get a grip and quit making it an auction.

banpaeng wrote:What's your bid? I'll start it out at 50 baht. Come on guys this is not a cattle auction. It is really good to discuss what sin sod is but get a grip and quit making it an auction.

I guess to an unaccustomed westerner, the whole idea of sin sod probably does seem like an auction, especially when you hear of some offering millions and some only a few thousand baht.

Going..going…gone! 50 baht to the man with the American Flag LOL!