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PostAuthor: westerby » August 7, 2008, 5:14 am

1899 - Winston Churchill stood at Oldham by election for the Conservatives and lost.

1900 - Churchill won Oldham as a Conservative.

He opposed Govt. military expenditure and Chamberlain's trade tarriffs and was deselected by his constituency.

He crossed the floor in the Commons and became a Liberal.

He won Manchester North West for the Liberals in 1906.

Asquith appointed him to the Cabinet as President of the Board of Trade in 1908.

1911 became First Lord of the Admiralty.
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PostAuthor: Tilokarat » August 7, 2008, 5:43 am

Thanks.
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PostAuthor: git » August 7, 2008, 6:15 am

Well looks to me like Mr. Samak has pulled off the gloves. Attacking and trying to amend article 63. Where we come from the ammendments are pretty much how things are dione, Except you can't say anything bad about anyone, The funny part of that is you can already sue people for saying bad things about you. If you can't complain why would you have a ralley in the first place. Ah yes permits, but who Ok's them. So it may sound similar but in reality will it be?

Special police assigned to investigate T shirts.

Celebration of the Royal family, I think that is wonderful. I would have felt much better about it if wasn't Mr. Samak's idea. anyone seee Le Majeste charges coming?

All ready talk of a new party if this one is disbanded. Mr Samak as I recall has his charges in front of the Surpreme court already.

Not pro or con anyone, Mai Chai Tura Pom (not my business) Bot, politics are interesting to watch here. I often wonder what our own Democracy were like 50 to 60 years out.
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PostAuthor: git » August 7, 2008, 6:30 am

Poor Mr. Samak he just can't seem to win for losing even the DAAD opposed the move

Constitution amendment under fire
By The Nation
Published on August 7, 2008


Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej's proposal to amend Article 63 of the Constitution has been attacked by people who say the move would limit the public's basic rights and freedom to gather.


A bill to regulate rallies on public streets is due to be considered soon in Parliament, but public opposition appears to be getting fiercer. The bill was proposed by People Power Party MPs led by Sakon Nakhon's Jumpot Boonyai.


Critics say the bill is simply a government's strategy to attack their opponents in the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD).


The bill would require rally organisers to get permission from provincial committees or the Metropolitan Police chief before any rallies are staged. Government committees would be authorised to ban rallies from being held if they were deemed likely to inconvenience traffic or commuters.


The bill also proposes that in the event of committee orders being violated, police or other officials can disperse rallies without being subject to criminal or civil punishment.


Curiously, the origin of this bill was the military-appointed National Legislative Assembly. NLA member Police General Issaraphan Sanitvong na Ayutthaya, then deputy national police commissioner, proposed it first.


The only difference now is the PPP-proposed version includes a ban on rallies that obstruct traffic.


Previously, it was the Democratic Alliance Against Dictatorship, an anti-coup group, staging anti-government rallies. But the wheel has turned.


DAAD was led by former Thai Rak Thai Party MPs Veera Musigapong, Jatuporn Phromphan and Jakrapob Penkair. Jatuporn, Jakrapob and another DAAD official Natthawut Sai-kua later received positions in the People Power government.


The former proposal was strongly opposed by NLA members including Chamlong Srimuang, Gothom Arya, Kamnoon Sittisaman and Tuenjai Deetes, who said it was undemocratic. After three hours of debate, it was dropped without any further deliberation.


At the time, some DAAD members protested in front of the Parliament against the bill, saying it was aimed at attacking their group.


It shows that while both elected legislators and those appointed by coup-makers may want to limit people's rights and freedom to gather, the public will oppose such moves.

Jakrapob's assets


The National Counter-Corruption Commission has revealed the assets declaration by former PM's Office Minister Jakrapob Penkair when he left the Cabinet.


Jakrapob had Bt200,000 less in assets compared to when he took the post.


One interesting item that he listed after taking the minister's post was a 9mm pistol. He requested permission to own the gun in April, two months after taking the post, saying he needed it to protect his life and possessions.

Kornchanok@nationgroup.com




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PostAuthor: Guns482 » August 7, 2008, 3:27 pm

Many fine points made there about not only Churchill and his forebears, but also others as well.
I do beliecve that Churchill cut his teeth in politics after the Boer war in which he was a War Correspondent, but I could be wrong.
His tome on the Histroyt og the english Speaking people made fascinating rading, unfortunately i left it in England for others to read, but it is certainly an eye opener and a must read for all americans.
Getting back to the local politics bit, the problem here is the weathy care not a hoot for the public and it shows that is what is so sad. The people suffer, the poor suffer and why. Answers please on a A4 piece of paper not less than 500 words thanks. :D
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PostAuthor: westerby » August 10, 2008, 2:37 am

Here's the other side of democracy:

Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve.

George Bernard Shaw
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PostAuthor: Guns482 » August 10, 2008, 8:53 am

So true.
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Re: PAD supporter killed in Udon Thani

PostAuthor: UdonExpat » February 21, 2009, 11:41 am

The death in July is back in the news. Perhaps someone(s) will be held responsible. It seems that such things can happen without foul play, although it is suspected in this case.

Authorities face disciplinary probe over Udon Thani clashes


The police chief, the provincial governor and three senior officers from Udon Thani face a disciplinary probe after the National Anti-Corruption Commission said in a report Wednesday that it suspected foul play in the clash between red and yellow shirts last July.

The NACC has found cause to suspect serious violations involving provincial police chief MajGeneral Permsak Paradonsak, NACC member Klanarong Chantik said.

Udon Thani Governor Supoj Laowansiri, his assistant Yuthana Wiriyakitti and Permsak's two deputies, Colonel Pattrawut Uamsasithorn and Colonel Boonlue Kobangyang, are the others suspected of committing disciplinary offences, he said.

The Naiton


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Re: PAD supporter killed in Udon Thani

PostAuthor: westerby » February 21, 2009, 7:24 pm

The Nation wrote:Authorities face disciplinary probe over Udon Thani clashes.
The police chief, the provincial governor and three senior officers from Udon Thani face a disciplinary probe after the National Anti-Corruption Commission said in a report Wednesday that it suspected foul play in the clash between red and yellow shirts last July.


Yeah, I believe this one will be pursued and someone will be liable while the PAD Bangkok Government Buildings investigation will conveniently lose its way up the Swanny.
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