wouldn't sow cement (concrete formed posts) be a better long term solution for fence posts..??? I put in concrete 2 meter fence posts (buried .5 meter) around our 3 rai 97 talang wa plot and bought chain link fence (1.5 meter high) roughly 230 meters long.. All told approximately 45,000 Baht.. They clay soil is so hard that once placed and after a year or so, the post might as well be standing in concrete..

Day 3 just a boring day putting up the metal battens and clean up right boundry fence, cut trees down fron left side Soi 7, day over

Day 4 Wednesday: Old corragated sheets gets put back on soi entrance, this time straight and the tops cut the same size, screwed fixed.

Photo: Front fence painted white with yellow post, workers putting up sheets, and of course the vinyl reflective red yellow glow in the dark Soi 7 sign B800 from the shop next to Taco Place, looks impressive at night when the headlights shine on it,

You can see the trees cleared from the right side of soi under the power poles

Photo: Udonmap trailer, tool box, construction camp on right at back, for the boss, workers camp under tree on left with Took Took.

Right boundry fence next to be rebuilt with fibre cement roof sheet

Gravel road extends to back of home to allow delivery trucks access and future driveway

Photo: backside of Soi fence, on right middle of photo is the old side fence of the land, with corragated sheet sticking up, labour cutting sheets on neighbours land



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Photo: Smoko time , with the daily icecream truck, workers taking a break sucking on the boss supplied treat. Phamtom and trailer, with the little scooter in background that road with Ray and the Big dogs a few week ago, GF has her head down and ass up look for the right flavour icecream.

Side fence cleared of shrubs ready for rails and painting

FrazeeDK wrote:wouldn't sow cement (concrete formed posts) be a better long term solution for fence posts..??? .

I looked around the local area, and all the post were concrete, couldn't find any 2.4mt long concrete, 600 in ground 1800 above, most of the local concrete post around my area were all out of level, the soil is sandy clay, poor drainage, sets hard when dry , but turns to slop when wet, to much movement, as well the concrete post posed a problem fixing steel battens to, try to drill the post and used a anchor bolt the post just cracks, so timber was the best easiest to use, if done right will last my life time, as long as you treat the bottom of the post correctly to allow the water to run off except 40 years plus life. Also allows for a high wind load on the fence when concreted in.

The side fence posts was concrete post set into dirt, we pushed them over easy after last weeks rain, at only 1 mt above the ground and 500 in the ground, we pulled them all out and set them in concrete footings 400x400x700D

Day 5 Thursday: Clean side fence of shrubs concrete post in ground, install rails, fix sheets paint and complete.

Cost Rails 1/12 x 3 @ 50 mts x B45 = 2,250
Concrete 300
Fixings and connections 500
Paint 600
Red trim capping metal 1,200
Sheeting fibre cement 1.5 mt high 3,600 60 sheets @B60
Labour 2 x crew days 2,600
Total length fence 25mts B11,000 per metre cost B440 @1,5 mt high




Part complete

Day 6 Friday complete fence above

Great pics & posts AussieBoy! TUVM! As one who is looking at retirement in the Udorn area my wife and I find your "diary" both entertaining and informative. If it is not too much trouble; keep it coming and thanks again.

Photo: south boundry of land with pretty colour fence, top rail cover/ red to be installed, final trims and clean at later stage, on with the real work My Home.

AB without a doubt this thread will reach huge numbers, maybe more than the smoking debate !!

This is a great way for people contemplating the issues of building and im sure many will benefit from all this.

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Day 7 Saturday: Install post for home, into 500x500x1000 footing

Costings
Post 75x75x3mm steel 6mtx 6 @b600 Ea B3600
Plate 75x6mm 6mt B600
Cutting welding post and plate delivered to site B3600
painting post labour and paint B600

Total post 12 @1.5mt long -----------------------------B8,400

Set out dig holes 2 x days crew...............................B2,600

Concrete 4 mt3-------------------------------------------B6,000

Total sub floor support---------------------------------B17,000

60mt2 cost per mt2 approx=B300

Day 8 Sunday: Install bearers and joist, went for a combanation of timber and steel,Bearers were the same price in either timber or steel, allowing for the painting, timber a bit easy to work with,

Steel joist were 100x 40 x 2 mm at B45 mt , timber was B75 a mt 100x 38mm total of 180mt x B30 a saving of B5400 using steel, but approx 5 hours extra work for the crew to screw the flooring dow, compared to using nails on a timber joist

Photo of bearers and joist, bearers were fixed down to post with 2 x 12mm bolts and large 75mm washers to on the timber to achive a tie down rating of 60mt/s.

joist double up under internal bracing walls , no internal wall is load bearing, roof load gets transfered to out external walls, on all joist across the 3 bearers, fixed down with 30 x 30 x 1.5mm steel angle, nailed with 40mmx 2.5 concrete nails with load spreading washers nailed into bearer, no hard nail clouts available in thailand, so made do with that system, tie down bracket fixed to joist with 20 x 2.5 wafer self drilling screws x 2 per joist, in photo you can see 1 of the brackets, and the 2 screws sticking through the other joist, more detail later with close up of connections.

Stump has ant capping, not much standard material available for such things here, so the capping is baking dish aluminium B50 from Macro. This capping helps stop white ants , and general ants, the dont like travelling up around the capping, and you can put oil/ chemical on the top side of capping to stop the bugs, the system is designed to slow down the access of the crawling insects, based on a monthly visual inspection, if done right as is shown, you only need to look as you walk past the stumps to see if there are signs of any dirt tracks up the post, the capping adds a little more divation for the creaters to crawl up and over

Now we got the wind loading for the bearers and joist, the ants under control, on to the flooring