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Right of habitation agreement

PostAuthor: AussieBoy » March 23, 2008, 9:43 pm

Here is the basic translation of right to habitation it cost 5 baht for register form, 20 baht to have signiture witness, and 50 baht for paper work,

took about 40 minutes total very simple and easy not the 20,000 baht quoted by the local lawers/ socilitors, typical scum bags

The form comes standard with ownership rights for any thing built or grown given to you the farang / signee, Usufruct type lease, no taxes or yearly fees, note the All of life period, at the top and through out the deed.

Some say its only 30 years others say its life, I think it only 30 years, from other post I have read





ASSIGNMENT OF LAND CONTRACT ( NON OF EXPENSE ) ALL LIFE PERIOD




Both of assignor and assignee are hereby agree as following ;

1. The owner / assignor
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PostAuthor: Bump » March 24, 2008, 7:45 am

Thanks but I believe I will take my legal advice from one of the scumbags. Each to his own I'm happy for you.
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PostAuthor: laphanphon » March 24, 2008, 11:57 am

actually, aussieboy gave you some good advice, scumbags are not necessary. though if needing one to verify which type of land deed/paper you have, they really shouldn't charge you extra to add gift of habitat for life. what is important, is there are 2 kinds, use, and total control to use, change, modify. not sure if you can lease, but if you can, lease to a friend, same as if married and got one of them 30 yr leases. as they can not be cancelled since it will effect a 3rd party.

so if you have a scumbag, say 10,000 to look over everything and hold your hand, then you say you want habitation paperwork, and he addes 1-5000 baht for that, tell him it only cost all of 5 baht and bit more for witness and paperwork. though all it cost me was the 5 baht for paperwork, and this was done last month. i just happen to have legal assistance standing in same area, a coincidence that we just happen to be in the same place at same time, and all was above board. it really is too easy to add anything to land papers. the trick is to make sure your have the proper land paper. one that is transferrable. actually easy also, if knowing what to look for. it will have the red transfer seals on the back of paper.

i'll gladly copy mine, minus tech info if needing a comparison to go by. if having a thai companion you trust, easy to do at office yourself, or lawyer for piece of mind, but don't go high end, not necessary. again, FBI can walk you thru anything and has good lawyer reference for piece of mind.
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PostAuthor: Bump » March 24, 2008, 4:21 pm

Well peice of mind is what I always look for.

I trust my scumbag from experience LOL
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PostAuthor: AussieBoy » March 24, 2008, 9:07 pm

The fees charged by the land office was 75 baht, They charged me for the witness and office fees, I suppose if you walk in with the correct form filled out and signed it will cost only 5 baht,

As for the lawers, the 2 in udon both quoted the same thing, one saying it would only take about 2 hours, thats when I got my hair on end, and thinking it was a typical Lawer talk, we know how to do it the best. Same in Australia, 20 years ago the lawers tried to stop people from doing their own convayencing, when selling land, price was about $800 back in 1985 for the average land sale, now you can buy a kit and do it all your self for about $45, or use a lawer , which is now very competitive and pay around $800, 25 years later the lawers still charging the same price, because any one can go to the land office and transfer. Typical lawer con job, that most people have been brain washed into beliving you need them to do everything.

to each his own, my 19,000 saving went into the fence around the property.

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PostAuthor: rickfarang » March 24, 2008, 9:20 pm

AussieBoy, you paid 5 Baht more than I did, but then again, I did it two years ago, and everything has gone up since then. :D

Speaking (writing) of lawyers, I tried to get my lawyer to prepare the papers for me, but he just told my wife to go to the land office and he explained to her what she had to ask for. He wouldn't take any money for it. Some lawyers are scumbags, and some are...just professionals trying to make a living. No lawyer necessary, but neither is insurance in many cases, and they are both good for peace of mind.
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PostAuthor: laphanphon » March 25, 2008, 9:42 am

totally agree, some are and some aren't scumbags. once again why i endorse FBI, all their legal advice and witnessing, especially last minute changes at land office, a life saver, cost all of couple beers, and paperwork at office weeks before, cost ice cream for the kids and staff hanging around. didn't want any money, offered me beer, which i wasn't in sipping mood as having a busy day ahead of me.

i used to transfer own deeds in states and even did a non contested divorce, along with a few wills. just takes a little investigation and a nice person with a helpling hand instead of the standard, must have lawyer, here is a card, or don't know how, even though i do it every day. just point me in the right direction, the rest i can do.

it is the deeds that need to be verified here, couple different types with different rights, even the guys at the land office would probably explain it to wife, unless freiend of seller. they seemed to have did a 100% turn since first arriving 7 yrs ago. much friendlier and helpful, even at amphure office. think they figured out tipping is more generouse than, don't know, see a lawyer.
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PostAuthor: isaanlawyers » July 4, 2008, 3:15 pm

We do usufruct for 12K in Nakhorn Ratchasima, so, 20K for a Thai lawyer is quite expensive in Ubon!!!!! I will do them for 20K there.... (And we do... :D ). Especially for a right of habitation. I would not recommend this one. There are better things to do.

The right of habitation can be for life. Not 30 years. It's normally restricted to the house. That's why the USUFRUCT is normally better.

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PostAuthor: Galee » July 4, 2008, 9:25 pm

Would you buy a property etc in your country of origin without taking legal advice?

If yes, why think differently in LOS?

DIY is to risky.
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PostAuthor: laphanphon » July 5, 2008, 9:20 am

We do usufruct for 12K in Nakhorn Ratchasima, so, 20K for a Thai lawyer is quite expensive in Ubon!!!!! I will do them for 20K there.... (And we do... ). Especially for a right of habitation. I would not recommend this one. There are better things to do.

The right of habitation can be for life. Not 30 years. It's normally restricted to the house. That's why the USUFRUCT is normally better.

not really sure what mine is actually called, thought right of habitation, for life, w/right to use and alter/improve/do whatever to present and future building. swhat actually called or what paragraph #, don't know, don't care. just know what i wanted, and best for me. 8)

cost all of 5 baht, paper charge, as filing fee done already. maybe 75, like aussieboy, but i thought 5. with a little hand holding from FBI real estate for free, ok, we sat outside and sipped beer, while the ladies took care of business.
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it really is very easy to do yourself and w/thai speaker that you trust, or use FBI to hold your hand for small fee. registering the deed is very easy, must be, because the place is full of locals with no lawyer. then to add lease/habitation, simply ask what desk to go to. he simply asked what kind, what rights, how much per month, if anything. so simple.

DIY is to risky.

i've transferred sales in the states by myself. had a real estate license, but that wasn't taught for that. just went down the county court house, where nobody wants to help and refers you to their lawyer friend, but i persisited and taught myself, which again, was way too easy. but would not recommend it in the states.

here, it really is too easy. as mentioned somewhere, you have to make sure you have the proper deed allowing full ownership. that's fairly simple.
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PostAuthor: AussieBoy » July 5, 2008, 10:02 am

Agree with Lappy above 100%, (my home is not built on the ground, ) I can do with the land anything I like for the term of my life, build , plant operate business, if GF gets to difficult, I'll offer her B200,000 to sell to new GF name, if old GF does not want to sell, dont care, my home is far from her family village, I can stay there for rest of my life, and if I dont like it , I can remove my stilt home/ fence trees and let the GF have the vacant land, but if she is smart she will probaly take the B200,000 now rather than wait till I die.

But at this stage I happy with GF #1 NU NU shes only 10 years my junior, just started to pay her B4000 a month to look after home feed dog pay power rates, shes never ask for any money, she looked at it as a free place to stay while I was not in Udon, better than her drunken Father / brother in her village.

Now if your one the DDD ( dorks dykes or doodleheads) who get a GF 30 plus years younger than you, and Farang builds big mansion on land near GF village and spends life savings B3,000,000 to keep her happy , then I would be wanting good advice from expensive Lawer to, but by that time its to late, and if the relationship sours, who would want to live near the ex GF any way, so you give up your lease or suffer living near your EX, power of the young pussy will always beat a good lawer. such is the weakness of man. :(

My home is built on stumps, and it can be moved, 8) comming soon to a forum near you, " the moving of my Udon Home " not far but it will show you it can be done, poor bastards who built slab on ground, can't move it

If your a DDD, you need a lawer

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PostAuthor: jetdoc » July 5, 2008, 10:22 am

"Now if your one the DDD ( dorks dykes or doodleheads) who get a GF 30 plus years younger than you,"
I resemble that remark, but fortunately I didn't didn't spend my entire life with head up and locked, (some that know me will disagree) and have gained some insights into basic human behavior. One simply needs to asses the situation and the make a set of rules for yourself, (Keep in mind making rules for others to follow won't work) follow your rules and you will find there is no need for lawyers or enrollment in WBU.
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PostAuthor: aznyron » July 5, 2008, 10:37 am

aussie my wife is 40 years younger and i have no problems with money or family or other men
I am building a house in her village and it for her I do not want any thing if she dumps me
you see it not about me it about her she gives me her love & her time and take care of me
she has only one gold necklace and that all she will get from me she drives truck which I bought new and a motor bike which I bought new both in her name including my M.B
I also know if she dumps me I will go back to the states or some other S/E Asian country
and I take my ATM card with me. I have more important things to think about other than my wife scamming me because in the end they all lose. also I came in to this world with nothing never had any thing and going out the same way real simple logic . Now all I want is my body to heal & get back to the way I was before my M/B accident minus the weight LOL
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PostAuthor: AussieBoy » July 5, 2008, 11:14 am

aznyron wrote:aussie my wife is 40 years younger and i have no problems with money or family or other men
I am building a house in her village and it for her I do not want any thing if she dumps me
you see it not about me it about her she gives me her love & her time and take care of me
she has only one gold necklace and that all she will get from me she drives truck which I bought new and a motor bike which I bought new both in her name including my M.B
I also know if she dumps me I will go back to the states or some other S/E Asian country
and I take my ATM card with me. I have more important things to think about other than my wife scamming me because in the end they all lose. also I came in to this world with nothing never had any thing and going out the same way real simple logic . Now all I want is my body to heal & get back to the way I was before my M/B accident minus the weight LOL


That's the best attitude to take, to many farang come here and if it does not work get peed off with the GF wife and dont want to loose face, I made the desicion not to build in GF come wifes village, even though it was a free block of land 500mt from ring road, If my current GF does not work out, I'll stay in my Udon home, she can take the fridge furniture bike TV etc back to her village,, not worth loosing face over it, she came with nothing and will leave better off, A placid way of life
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PostAuthor: AussieBoy » July 5, 2008, 11:26 am

jetdoc wrote:"Now if your one the DDD ( dorks dykes or doodleheads) who get a GF 30 plus years younger than you,"
I resemble that remark, but fortunately I didn't didn't spend my entire life with head up and locked, (some that know me will disagree) and have gained some insights into basic human behavior. One simply needs to asses the situation and the make a set of rules for yourself, (Keep in mind making rules for others to follow won't work) follow your rules and you will find there is no need for lawyers or enrollment in WBU.


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