As things stand now, and have stood for some time, it seems that foreigners are fair game. Whatever can be scammed from them in these comparatively small cons can be taken without fear of penalty or loss.

Would it be a good thing if these victims of fraud (and admittedly their own gullibility) has some recourse by which they could recover some of their financial losses?

I found myself in a similar situation once and at the moment of the shock of understanding the situation, the money wasn't important at all because the emotional distress was overwhelming, but now that many years have passed, I realize that money was the motivation. Perhaps a means of recovering the money and perhaps punishing the culprit would make this kind of abuse less attractive.

i dont see it as abuse, i once worked in a top psychiatrists house building an extension, and he told me that needy people attract needy people, he needed his ego stroked as Stan so eloquently put it, she needed money, wheres the abuse, its a trade off, these girls are switched on, if your the gullible type, im afraid its a lamb to the slaughter. there's no fool like an old fool.

Well like many of us ,I had my emotional distress and shock with a fiancee when I was very naive and new to living here!Nothing like this guy which is complete idiocy IMO!

Once I found out that she was communicating with other guys(friends only ),I told her that it wasn't acceptable to me and left the family house for the night telling that she had that night to decide between continuing to chat or being with me!

The next day,I came back,she had composed a letter telling me that she wanted us to be together and she would not chat anymore!

Of course it was a lie and a month later she happened to not clean up the computer and I found pictures in My documents that were sent with different loving messages to about 6-7 different guys!

Cased closed,I moved out,angry and depressed,but started my living in BKK all over again as a single noncommited expat!I didn't go into the P2P scene at all because I had my fill of it several years before as a sexpat tourist and it didn't fit for me!

Took awhile to understand it all and get past the anger towards her as I was very naive to the whole Thai/falang relationship thing!

Today,I see it in a whole different light!I don't see it as me being purposely abused!I see it as her shuffling the deck with me as the only retired(older)card and her inability to be honest about what she really wanted,holding onto me in case her other more preferred options didn't workout!

Turns out that our breakup story expedited a 40 year old Aussie she liked into getting her and her son visas to OZ and she has done well for herself and her family,while I wound up with a wife that I had met while living with my fiancee and her family in their neighborhood!

This lady contractor was very good at her business. She had a number of contracts, managed to juggle the minimal requirements of each client so as to maintain the contractual relationship, and continued to try to increase the cost of her services.

A true entrepreneur. Too smart to work for an employer she managed her business quite well. I admire her ability, if not her field of endeavor. Had she been a little more secure with her correspondence she probably would not have been exposed, in this manner, so quickly if at all. In this case, it took a professional investigator to expose her for one man only. I think she'll quickly land on her back.

She will find new contracts as long as her desirability remains intact. I hope she has the foresight to save money to see her through her life, and that she is actually helping to support her family wherever they are.

The beauty of her system is that her customers either believe they have an exclusive contract or don't care about her other contracts as long as she fulfills their contract. This gives her great leverage to increase the fees for those who believe they have an exclusive.

I suppose she could be criticized for deceiving some of her clients, but then again how many contractors are completely honest with their clients? Ever have a house built? Or a major remodel? The contractor was probably juggling your job with a number of others and providing the minimum amount of service to keep the contract, or even defaulted on some parts of the contract knowing you had little recourse.

So, what about the poor man with a broken heart. It hurts like hell and he'll probably grasp at straws to try to alleviate the pain. If he had some friend perhaps they'll help to support him, but then again they may just add to the pain by telling him what a fool he's been.

The heart is not rational, and if you've ever been infatuated you will recall it's intensity. It's often associated with the young, but then again, emotionally, many of us are merely teenagers in a aged body. I hope he had some friends to see him through. After all, there's no fool like an old fool.

UdonExpat wrote:This lady contractor was very good at her business. She had a number of contracts, managed to juggle the minimal requirements of each client so as to maintain the contractual relationship, and continued to try to increase the cost of her services.

A true entrepreneur. Too smart to work for an employer she managed her business quite well. I admire her ability, if not her field of endeavor. Had she been a little more secure with her correspondence she probably would not have been exposed, in this manner, so quickly if at all. In this case, it took a professional investigator to expose her for one man only. I think she'll quickly land on her back.
She will find new contracts as long as her desirability remains intact. I hope she has the foresight to save money to see her through her life, and that she is actually helping to support her family wherever they are.

The beauty of her system is that her customers either believe they have an exclusive contract or don't care about her other contracts as long as she fulfills their contract. This gives her great leverage to increase the fees for those who believe they have an exclusive.

I suppose she could be criticized for deceiving some of her clients, but then again how many contractors are completely honest with their clients? Ever have a house built? Or a major remodel? The contractor was probably juggling your job with a number of others and providing the minimum amount of service to keep the contract, or even defaulted on some parts of the contract knowing you had little recourse.

So, what about the poor man with a broken heart. It hurts like hell and he'll probably grasp at straws to try to alleviate the pain. If he had some friend perhaps they'll help to support him, but then again they may just add to the pain by telling him what a fool he's been.

The heart is not rational, and if you've ever been infatuated you will recall it's intensity. It's often associated with the young, but then again, emotionally, many of us are merely teenagers in a aged body. I hope he had some friends to see him through. After all, there's no fool like an old fool.

The bottomline is ,responsibilty lies with the guys.If they are willing to remain ignorant,stay in denial and pursue their wanting emotions,I can't blame the beneficiuary of their foolhardiness!

Many people everywhere have breakups,come to a realization that they made a mistake or just become so unsatisfied in the relationship,they want out!Many feel this way,but stay in it for various reasons,but some are pure masochists and keep coming back for more punishment!

Nobody is perfect and their is a ''big sadness''involved when things don't go the way we want,but no negative relationship is one-sided,both have a part!

I went through that "blame the victim" phase a long time ago. I definitely blame the girls. I see lying and stealing as character flaws, and exposing this guy (and me years before) to such emotional pain for their ill-gotten gains is absolutely despicable.

Yes, lying and stealing are character flaws. But guess who taught them how to lie and steal! .................. White males.

Most get caught up in having a young sexy woman showing intrest in them and are blind to the truth.After all he learns,he still wants to win her back.Just understand that both are getting what they want and it is not true love.This can only happen if you allow to.Just wise up and enjoy the fun untill you meet a truly honest woman,and yes there are many in Thailand.

Good story. Thanks for posting.

Gozzo wrote:Yes, lying and stealing are character flaws. But guess who taught them how to lie and steal! .................. White males.

What????

Isn't there a Thai proverb which says something to the effect "The truth is indestructible but you are not."

Mmm, I think there might have been a little lying and stealing long before the big bad white man came on the scene !!

Was there not another post about when the first dutch ship came to Thailand.

Contract wifes where offered for their duration of the saliors stay and when the ship left the wifes went back to there Thai partners. Of course there was a payment of some kind and this offer originated from the thai's.

Now I could be wrong but I thought I read that on this forum somewhere.