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visa through wife earning 40,000 per month

PostAuthor: john2005 » October 14, 2006, 1:09 pm

Can anyone recommend someone professional to chat to about income tax returns?

My thinking is for my wife to have an income of 40,000 per month thus getting a one year marriage extention,but the visa requires a copy of her tax return and a receipt showing payment of tax.Is there a good tax lawyer/accountant in Udon?

On the back of an envelope i make the liability to be roughly 25,000 Baht which is far cheaper than a load of visa runs and you do not have the hassle of all the travel and visiting the Thai embassy in some God forsaken place.
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PostAuthor: Dakoda » October 14, 2006, 10:08 pm

Sorry, can't help; but I will be putting this on my watch list.

I guess this visa stuff, has gotten the wheels a turning.

But still a very interesting idea :!: I just wonder how she would show this income at immigration :?:
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PostAuthor: BKKSTAN » October 14, 2006, 11:32 pm

:lol: I'll bet that there are not to many Thai ladies making 40,000 baht per month that are married to us old geezers :lol: :lol:
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PostAuthor: Dakoda » October 15, 2006, 7:37 am

BKKSTAN wrote::lol: I'll bet that there are not to many Thai ladies making 40,000 baht per month that are married to us old geezers :lol: :lol:


I think what he is saying, is that he would deposit the funds each month in her account, and she would pay taxes. Then they would take this paperwork to immigration.



PS. This would put the responsibility on her in obtaining the VISA, where it should be, (if we were in the states, it would be mine) along with fighting-off the occasional snake.
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PostAuthor: Coot » October 15, 2006, 9:46 am

I am working along the same lines John.I understand a Bangkok based nurse can earn 36,000 odd Baht a month which is not too far off the 40,000.Many an old man needs nursing care.

Two pieces of documentation are required for the visa,a filed tax return and the receipt showing tax paid.Tax is based on a calendar year and payable before the end of March that follows.Plenty of time to sort things out. :)
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PostAuthor: BKKSTAN » October 17, 2006, 7:31 pm

:lol: We could hire a g/f,deposit 40,000 a month in her account and call ourselfs employers :lol: :lol: :lol:
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PostAuthor: Dakoda » October 27, 2006, 7:14 am

Here is some info on the subject from Thaivisa


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sounds like the route to take. Anyone know the location of "Sunbelt" office in Udon? I'll send the wife :!: :D
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PostAuthor: Paul » October 27, 2006, 7:37 am

I am confused - (or maybe just plain stupid) but usually the man applies for the extension based on the requirement to support a Thai national (usually a wife). Therefore as he is applying for the visa extension it is he who has to prove that HE has the necessary funds to support her. Otherwise SHE is supporting him!

There is always the lump sum option of course, although I believe that for those aplying for an extension for the first time after Oct 1st that the lump sum option is not available and new applications HAVE to go down the 40,000 per month route. That will surely screw a lot of people.

Please would you clarify your intentions to obtaining your extension as the route you appear to be taking puts an interesting twist on the usual method of application and it would be interesting to learn more.

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PostAuthor: Dakoda » October 27, 2006, 8:08 am

from above link
My wife earns in excess of 40k per month. So are the new regs 40k a month between us and no money at all required in the bank?


Correct




And would it be sufficient for my wife just to provide the proof of her earnings rather than me presenting my proof of earnings as well? (I'm trying to streamline the process if possible!)


yes


I'd be curious myself to know if anyone has pushed this through? Anyone? Has this been done?


We do extensions of stay based on marriage, on average three times a day. No problems. They'll just smile ( The smile of needing to say "No" , to that couple) if you show money, its all about income. ( After Oct 1st, 2006 with new applicants)

www.sunbeltasiagroup.com



Seems to me after reading the many posts (from above link), it will be worth checking into :!:
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PostAuthor: Dakoda » October 27, 2006, 8:15 am

(touch @ 2006-10-26 06:12:53) *

Can I, as a private person, employ my wife and pay her the 40K/month. She pays the tax. Just over 2K/month and everything is OK as far as Immigration is concerned?

I have the capital, not the income.

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Yes if she would be working for you on a project outside Thailand. If the project was inside Thailand, then you may be required to have a work permit.



Can I just ask, are we talking about a Thai wife here of Farrang. Does it make a difference??


Yes. This is based on marriage to a Thai.


I'm a farrang with my farrang wife (working on 40k+) and I want to obtain an O-visa. I'm a kept man and I love it, just sick of staying on tourist visa's.




Get a dependent visa with your wife. As long as she has an extension of stay based on business.



Sunbelt: What is the average cost of obtaining this visa through your company?

PM me if you don't want to discuss money on the forum.


We are proud of the fact that we are very transparent in our fees.

Our professional fee is 3,900 Baht and the government fee is 1,900 Baht.


www.sunbeltasiagroup.com



remember Paul, I am presently on a 60 day tourist visa :!: Just add up the costs of leaving every 90 days (counting 30 day extension) and wondering what their pleasure will be this time. A "O" NON, another tourist visa, a on arrival stamp, or just being stuck between boarders :cry:
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PostAuthor: Kudjap or Bust » October 27, 2006, 9:47 am

I'm now totally confused. I just spoke with a visa service company in BKK and he laughed when I mentioned my 40k p/m was my wifes monthly earnings.

I asked him if this was possible and he said "no you must be the one earning 40k per month" .....perhaps I should call a few more companies

Am I reading this thread totally wrong.........are we saying I can apply for a non 'O' year extension, not having any large sum of cash in the bank and giving my wifes salary as the 40k requirement. She owns her own business and earnes this amount or more, as above I'm a kept man and loving it.

Surely the Thai government isn't going to allow one fo their own to support a falang?
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PostAuthor: lee » October 27, 2006, 10:16 am

Dakoda wrote:Anyone know the location of "Sunbelt" office in Udon? I'll send the wife :!: :D


Try this link for a map:

http://www.udonmap.com/sunbeltasia
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PostAuthor: john2005 » October 27, 2006, 10:56 am

If you read section 7.17 sub section 6 you have the following:

"In case of the applicant who is
married to a Thai wife, one of them
or both of them need to have the
total annual income that is
averaged out not less than 40,000
Baht per month"

The evidence required is:

evidences of personal income of either
party or both that shows the total
income of both parties not less than
40,000 Baht per month, such as the
evidence of the personal income tax
filing and the receipt.

So you get the wife to file an income tax return and present it and the receipt to immigration.

It's a case of finding a friend with a business and putting her through the books.Why would he do it?,well his expenses would rise by 480,000 Baht a year so saving him close to 96,000 Baht in tax.(assuming 20 percent).If there is one thing a Chinese Thai hates,it is tax.

From: http://www.lawyer.th.com/National_Police_Office_Order_Oct_2006.pdf
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PostAuthor: Dakoda » October 27, 2006, 6:49 pm

lee wrote:
Dakoda wrote:Anyone know the location of "Sunbelt" office in Udon? I'll send the wife :!: :D


Try this link for a map:

http://www.udonmap.com/sunbeltasia



thanks Lee. Will need to wait a week or so before sending her, got something else in the fire right now, hoping it comes out just right. Thanks again.

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PostAuthor: Dakoda » October 28, 2006, 6:26 am

john2005 wrote:
It's a case of finding a friend with a business and putting her through the books.Why would he do it?, well his expenses would rise by 480,000 Baht a year so saving him close to 96,000 Baht in tax.(assuming 20 percent).If there is one thing a Chinese Thai hates,it is tax.



wife suggested the same, after I talked about the idea yesterday :!: How does that saying go again, "like minds ......" :)
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